KSK
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Post by KSK on Oct 1, 2014 7:54:57 GMT
Mahalo, folks!
We want to know if you like the idea to rent our own server? We are thinking about some ways so that we can provide a ArmA 3 gameserver and a TS3 voiceserver. That might work with a VPS, but I'm not sure if ArmA 3 with about 20 slots isn't too much for it. The other solution would be to rent a gameserver and a voiceserver separately and as unique servers. There are some hosts providing the possibility to order a TS3 server together with an ArmA 3 server. Others just offer both and you need to make 2 orders. Perhaps here's someone who's a bit skilled in questions about those servers and knows if a VPS really could handle our purposes (ArmA 3 with 20-30 slots + TS3 with 20-slots). Moreover it would be good if some people made experiences with hosts already and want to share them; if they can recommend a host. Of course this would need money, that's why the 2nd step would be to ask you if you can afford a part of the money (the price per month differs between about 17€ and 25€) and how much? For answering whether you like the idea of our own server or not, use the poll. For answering the other questions - especially about the money - simply make a post.
It would be very nice if more than just our "standard" guys answer to this important questions.
Thank you for your attention. Best regards K
PS: The result of your voting is shown after you selected an answer, to avoid that you getting influenced by those votes that were made before yours.
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frosttwocz
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Post by frosttwocz on Oct 1, 2014 19:02:04 GMT
up to 5EUR per month for me
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Post by MO on Oct 1, 2014 23:18:04 GMT
17€ and 25€ isn't to much money, if guys share some money , for example if 7 or 8 ppls want to cover it 20/8=2.5 per month, more ppls result is less cost for everyone.It's clear. BUT it worth it.Stick with VPS server. WHY ? not only u can run arma 3 servers and ts servers but also u can run any other game servers u like such as arma 2.There is no any limit about how many servers u want to run on VPS server.Also u can use it as database or any other things in web world.Other kind servers won't cover all this.So i advise u, just stick with VPS. For our purpose, VPS is just good.We don't need to have a real dedicated server.VPS server can handle all our stuffs. As u know, i had access to some VPS servers and some of u guys, played on them, there wasn't any problem about internet and server performance. I ll share some money to cover costs, i just need find a way about how to send money.I'm complete agreed with this idea.Without our own server , we r just lost. "ps": i found a way about how to fix my UDP connection issue, tested last night on a germany server and looks like it working"
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KSK
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Post by KSK on Oct 2, 2014 9:12:12 GMT
VPS as gameserver worked for us, that's true. My only fear concerning this kind of system is, that you have only a low guaranteed CPU cores and RAM and we might have simply been lucky in the past that the server wasn't in use by other instances/people that much. But on the other side, why shouldn't we be "lucky" again? - BUT: Our server was never really full...never more than 10 people. I agree also with the money: It won't get that much and the more people we get the less will be the money each has to pay. I can bring around 5€ per month in as well, atm.
Hopefully that UDP issue is solved for longer that just 2 days *fingers crossed*
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Post by MO on Oct 2, 2014 13:55:16 GMT
Stick with VPS again Because other kind game servers and team speak servers sellers that offering pay per slot using VPS servers too ! i guaranty that a simple vps server can handle 30 players in game and 32 slot teamspeak very easy! Arma 3 won't use Ram more then 2 gig on server and in case i m just recommended to get 4 gig RAM.Most VPS supporting a good speed internet also. Important part is CPU clock speed. 2 core cpu with 3GHZ clock speed is better then a 4 core cpu 2GHZ, becas arma can't use cpu more then 2 core most times and in ai handle case, arma just use 1 core cpu! "the server won't render any graphic or sound for game, just using cpu for calculate AI."
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KSK
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Post by KSK on Oct 2, 2014 16:02:27 GMT
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Post by MJAC on Oct 2, 2014 18:14:15 GMT
I gotta ask my mommy first. But in the mean time, allow me to express my confusion. In A3 there are game servers with 100 players and low ping. Are these VPS? AT the moment there are only 6 active players, is the cost justifiable, and is it not possible to host using a good connection like we used to do? I guess these questions have already been addressed, and just bypassed my cpu, so ill go with whats best.Our finances are unsettled at the moment but by X mas things should be greatly enhanced.
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Post by KSK on Oct 2, 2014 21:56:47 GMT
Most server providers have to use VPS as well, since the number of servers is too big to run each game server on a unique system, but that's just my opinion, I can't prove it. The number of active ArmA 3 players will rise till the end of this year, so that we have a number of at least 10+ people, where I can say that they will have ArmA 3. VPS would not only provide a gameserver but also TS3. Moreover people would be more independent to play whenever they want to. Another point is that for bigger maps with a higher number of AIs, players and bigger area in general, a better connection than mine is needed, since I had problems already in past and A3 isn't famous for being less hungry than A2. And for being prepared for more people joining us and for some who have been inactive in the part and planing to get back in future, it's in my eyes simply necessary. And actually, I assume with a real own server we could get more active people.
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Post by KSK on Oct 8, 2014 12:50:27 GMT
Only 7 people have voted until now... Important question being ask and then THIS...C'mon.
...8...holy moly. It's getting better^^
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Arska
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Post by Arska on Oct 8, 2014 21:12:14 GMT
Propably waste of money. Bitches be playin' Altis Life and shit
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Post by MO on Oct 9, 2014 11:22:41 GMT
I have some friends here , they like to share some money for a VPS server with us and use it for both clan/team.They have a VPS in Germany (good one), rent for one month test, they like to know if we interesting about this. If u ask me, my answer is this is a good deal.Not only More players in server, less cost for everybody but also if you want, its possible to run 2 separated game server on a VPS.
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Post by KSK on Oct 9, 2014 12:35:40 GMT
Yupp, I agree. Let's take this chance. But for 2 gameservers on one VPS we would need 2 IPs, right!? If such an "upgrade" is possible without rising the costs too much, it's definitely an option. That would also allow us to set a 2nd voiceserver, in case 32 slots wouldn't be enough for 2 teams - since TeamSpeak allows hosting servers only up to 32 slots without license. Saying this, just to cover every possible situation and being prepared for it Can you tell me what the name of their host is?
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Post by MO on Oct 9, 2014 15:24:25 GMT
www.nfoservers.com/No need 2 ip, 2 server can run on same IP, just need to change ports for game servers, its easy.IDK if it working for teamspeak server too or not. I was thinking about everyone stay on same teamspeak, we can separated to clans section, its easy too.
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Post by KSK on Oct 9, 2014 20:38:01 GMT
If it's really so easy to change ports without getting problems with Steam and the server being shown online public, I am fine with that. Yes, that's fine...as long as we don't reach number over 32 people...idk how many ppl are exactly in the other group.
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Post by MO on Oct 10, 2014 8:23:16 GMT
Rent for 1 year and use 15% discount, sounds good.If you interesting this or like to pay month to month, let me know.I ll talk with folks over here. Need to find out how we share money and pay for rent! we can do something like this too, 3 month paying this side and next 3 month pay other side clan. or if you have better idea please share.guys, time to act, show urself! www.nfoservers.com/order-virtual-dedicated-server.phpTwo core: Two full, dedicated HT CPU cores (Nehalem or better) 2048 MB of RAM + 1 GB RAM more = 3 GB 200 GB of RAID-protected storage 4000 GB of InterNAP bandwidth transfer server located Frankfort, Germany 32.48 $ month to month If you knowing better and cheaper hosting, share here immediately.
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